25 Gunfighting Stats Learned From Convicted Cop Killers

This article is going to be an in-depth look at the statistics related to some of the worst criminals, cop killers.  Every five years or so the FBI compiles a list of all cases where a criminal kills a cop in the line of duty, and publishes a report detailing their findings.  Let me say that they are shocking, and many of them go against the conventional wisdom police officers and responsibly armed citizens currently believe about criminals.  Keep reading to see how this data will affect you, and your weapons training.

In a previous life, I was an intelligence officer in the Marine Corps, and it was my job to provide threat analysis regarding current tactics, techniques, and procedures about the enemy.  This will be something like that, with a few differences, obviously criminal gang members and murderers aren’t like the Taliban (the Taliban like to date goats), but there are a surprising amount of commonalities between the two groups.

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Officer Background

This section will cover some basic background and statistical data about the officers.


  • Average Victim Officer: 98% Males, 2% Female
  • Average Age: 35
  • Height/Weight: 5’11, 197 lbs
  • Race: 90% white
  • Education: 50% had high school diploma, 50% had a college degree

Upon reviewing more detailed demographic information, it becomes clear that the majority of these officer’s were older, and better educated than their offender.

The vast majority of these cases were also against officers in uniform, 42%. The rest were detectives and other plain clothes assignments. The average time on the job was 9 years as an officer.

Almost all of these officers had also been in life threatening scenarios before, and some had even been in previous shootings.  They were described by their fellow officers as hardworking, and tough; however, there was a common theme indicating that they did not always follow correct safety procedures, for transports, arrests, and other similar situations.

Offender Characteristics

The offenders were predominantly males who were previously arrested numerous times, sometimes as many as 10 times previously.


  • Sex: 95% Males, 5% Female
  • Age: 26 years old
  • Race: 51% White, 49% non white
  • Size: 6’0, 175lbs
  • Education: only 14% had high school diploma, 4% had college degree

The offender’s backgrounds are universally terrible. They grew up in broken homes where drugs, and crime were ever-present factors of life.  Many of them were thrown out of their homes during their teenage years.

Their criminal histories were quite lengthy, with the average age of the first offense being 11 years of age, 9 for gang members.  They most often committed larceny, and most were not punished for that first violation.

As you might expect, the majority of the offenders reported regular drug and alcohol use; however, approximately 40% reported no use.  Likewise, a large chunk of the 43 offenders reported gang affiliation, and approximately 10 of those 43 were veterans of the US military.

During the interview process, the investigators questioned the offenders on their previous crimes, and received these astounding numbers for crimes that they could find no arrest records for.

Previously Unreported Criminal History
Previously Unreported Criminal History

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This lends some insight into why they are so willing to commit crime.  They are rarely caught for it.  Read this excerpt from one of the offenders to see just what type of person we are dealing with.


“Yeah, I mean, we was making a lot of money on the corner. The corner was doing something nice. We were making a lot of money on that corner, but there ain’t nothing like a little extra dough. I mean, you know, you might hear that there’s another drug corner, and they might be making five g’s a day out there. Let’s ride through there and we used to ride through other drug corners and lay like mad people on the ground. You know, anybody get up off the ground, he get shot. There was a time when me and my right-hand man, we lay like ten people on the ground, and out of the ten people, one person got up and started running. He got shot all in his back. I mean, that’s the way it go. We empty the pockets, take the drugs; we take whatever they got on them. The drugs, the guns, the money, the weed, all that stuff. We take it all. Even if it’s a nice leather jacket, we’d take that off his back. He might have a leather jacket on that cost $2,000; we take it all. That don’t mean that we’ll wear it, but we’ll take it and sell it or give it to somebody we know, a friend, a girlfriend, whoever. Pack all that stuff in the back of the car and ride. Go to the next corner. There were times we’d rob corners all night, all night, and go home and have all the stuff and put it all on the bed and basically divide it and after doing all that and putting so much work in, you go to sleep. Get something to eat and go to sleep.”


There are a couple of things I’d like to highlight here.  The willingness to use violence in furtherance of their own, and the gang’s goals is chilling.  This offender is talking about murdering huge numbers of people with no appreciable concern that this kind of behavior is not normal because, to him it is normal.

The Event

This section will cover some specifics regarding each case to see if we can make any broad conclusions.


  • Timeframe:  approximately 40% of murders occurred during evening hours
  • Event Type: Disturbance Call, In Progress Crime, Arrest
  • Most Common Assault Location: Roadway
  • Other Present:  In approximately 40% of incidents there were other officers or other persons present

These stats highlight that evening timeframes are the most common time for these violent events to occur.  They are also not likely to be one on one scenarios.

For the armed citizen this is generally good news, as most of the common events were police specific, i.e, joe citizen isn’t getting called to handle a domestic dispute; however, since the street was the most common location of occurrence, that does increase the likelihood that an armed citizen might be present during a violent event.

Weapons

This section will cover the types of weapons used by the offenders, the caliber, and their previous experience with them.


  • Most common weapon: pistol
  • Most common caliber: 9mm
  • Most Common Areas of Concealment: Front waistband/crotch, small of back
  • 18 of 50 officers had been in previous shootings
  • 16 of 43 offenders had received weapons training
  • 37 of 43 offenders regularly carried their weapon
  • Hit rate offender on officer: 68%
  • Hit rate officer on offender: 39%
  • Average range: 15ft
  • Most common offender shooting method: point shooting
  • Percent of legally acquired gun used by offender: 0%

These are some fairly startling statistics, but lets unpack some of them to see what we can learn.  During the interviews the offenders stated that they selected their weapons based on what was available.  They didn’t endlessly ponder on what caliber or type of weapon they should get, they just bought what was available.

It’s also commonly thought that these types of dirt bags don’t practice or have any training with their weapons.  This is patently false.  I’m not suggesting that they are going to IDPA matches, and getting some good training, but they do have others in their gang they teach them methods that work on the street. Don’t forget those that served in the military!

While some of us shooting snobs might scoff at their techniques, they were good enough to win a gunfight with a police officer.  Police officers aren’t always the best shooters, but they are probably better than the average concealed carry holder.

They also universally bought their weapons off of the black market, with none reporting a legal purchase. They also reported that the easiest way to obtain a weapon was to burglarize a home. They estimated that they would find a gun in about 80% of houses if they chose them carefully.

Offender’s had a higher hit rate because they almost always shot first. Many of these criminals have learned that aggression and violence are key to survival, and they are not constrained by laws or other’s welfare.  If they hit a bystander, they couldn’t care less.

The offenders stated that they didn’t attempt to aim, they simply pointed the weapon and shot.  They stated that their goal was to initially disable their victim, and if they wanted to kill them they could do so much easier after wounding them.

There is also good research showing that inexperienced shooters can point shoot very accurately at close distances.  Often times just as accurately as trained marksmen.

Analysis and Recommendations

Many of these stats are in line with a previous article that covered the 17 most important gunfight stats, but there are some differences.  These stats highlight the fact that real gunfights are occurring on the street at 5 yards; however, they are most commonly initiated by the criminal which leaves us, the good guys, in a real pickle.

The study highlighted that there were several cues that these criminals were armed, that officer’s failed to pick up on.  They reported that the offender would often blade the weapon away from the officer, and would touch or readjust the weapon to assure themselves that it was still secure.  No criminal in this study used a holster.

This highlights the fact that we aren’t going to win this encounter with pure gunfighting skills.  This fight is going to be won prior to shots being fired.  The researchers emphasized that identifying suspicious bulges, or clothing appearances in the commonly carried positions was key, as well as the physical indicators of checking or touching their weapon.

I would bet if you are reading this article then you are no stranger to concealed carry.  Think about the actions that you do when you carry.  I know when I get out of my truck I always pull my shirt over my gun, and I do touch my weapon from time to time to make sure it hasn’t moved in the holster.  Criminals do the same things, so pay attention!

One trick I find that helps me stay alert, especially during shifts as a police officer, is the gun game.  Sorry I don’t have a fancier name for it, but it is pretty simple.  When I’m in an area with a lot of people, I say to myself that there is a gun on one of these people, and I try to pick the one I think is most likely to be armed.  There’s nothing saying you can’t do this when you’re out and about going to your furries conventions.

I would also recommend staying away from dangerous neighborhoods if at all possible.  Most metropolitan areas have criminal databases that the public can view.  These show when and where what types of crime occur.  You will notice patterns.  Keep out of those areas, and you are much less likely to be victimized.

Resources 

There are several resources that I would like to recommend for those that really want to improve their concealed carry, and self-defense skills. The first is a book by Kyle Lamb (Former Delta Shooter) called “Stay in the Fight! A Warrior’s Guide to Combat Pistol.” (Amazon Affiliate Link) We appreciate the support!

The second resource is a podcast I regularly listen to called, “The American Warrior Society.”  The host Mike Seeklander is a former Marine, nationally ranked competitive shooter, and former police officer.  The podcast has great guests from Tier 1 shooters, to knife experts, and many others.  Check it out, I’m a huge fan.  Here’s a quick video talking about AWS.

Conclusions  

This report can be a downer to read, but it is invaluable to those of us who choose to carry a gun, or do so because it’s our duty.  We owe it to ourselves and the community to continue improving our proficiency with our weapons.

The average time officers practiced in this study was 14 hours per year.  That is horrendous.  If you carry a weapon, you need a higher level of proficiency, but as this study showed, being a gun slinger is not enough.

You’re ability to identify threats before critical events occur is key.  So engage your brain before you engage your weapon, and hopefully you won’t have to do the latter.

Check out the full length video below!

16 thoughts on “25 Gunfighting Stats Learned From Convicted Cop Killers”

  1. “I know when I get out of my truck I always pull my shirt over my gun, and I do touch my weapon from time to time to make sure it hasn’t moved in the holster. ”

    Do this in the car before getting out.

    Teach yourself to not touch the area the weapon is in.

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  2. “The vast majority of these cases were also against officers in uniform, 42%. The rest were detectives and other plain clothes assignments”

    I’m confused: Like 58% percent against detectives and plain clothes assignments? Or is there a third category?

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  3. Well first and foremost it is awesome to be part of a group that preserves and defends the freedom of self & others. I have a team which we pratice & shoot competitively. NRA ,,,, We are ramping up to be a Pro comp Team.. My problem right now is dialing in at the different yard lines in time, and getting good groups for the pint score…. Does anyone here shoot a 45 in time or competition, i would like to speak with you regarding ammuntion at the different yard lines to which would be best over all

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    • Welcome Steve. I’m not sure how familiar you are with USPSA competition but there is a specific division for 1911 and major power calibers as well. There are tons of great resources in terms of techniques and tips. I always recommend https://www.shooting-performance.com/ . Mike Seeklander is a great shooter (national champ) and a very gifted teacher. He has ton’s of free youtube videos as well.

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  4. I read an abstract of the report: https://injuryprevention.bmj.com/content/6/4/263 and one thing that struck me was the relatively small sample size used, 152. I’m not a statistician but have for a few years now self-taught myself on some of the basics. Given that, I could very well be missing something but I’ve always thought that the gold standard for any statistical study was a sample size of around 1000 or more. Also, the thrust of the study seems to be that DGU’s are vastly over-reported and that owning a firearm makes you less safe. There seems to be an underlying anti-gun bias. Now, I could easily be missing something, and if someone better versed in statistics could show me why I should give this study more credibility than I’m inclined to I would appreciate the input.
    Also, to clarify upfront, I am a gun owner but do not typically carry one with me during the day unless I’m going to a shooting range or other area to engage in target shooting or clay pigeon shooting. I do not have a CCW permit, and have no immediate plans to acquire one, although this may change in the future.

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    • Excellent comments Joseph. First off that number of 1000 or more is for polling data. Sample sizes for studies simply need to be large enough to prove that the result wasn’t the result of chance. Normally researchers do enough trials to reach a 95% confidence level that their results did not come from chance.

      There are studies that state that DGU’s are over reports. Numbers range from like 400,000 to millions annually. To be honest there isn’t really super definitive data here. Some studies are better than others.

      Owning a firearm does actually increase the odds of you dying from it. This is due to most men choosing it as a suicide method. In an overall sense you are less safe with a weapon in the house, however if you discount suicide risks, then there likely isn’t much of an impact if you are a safe gun handler.

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